Some questions about the Thot editor

Euromath System (emt@beta.dcs.fmph.uniba.sk)
Mon, 27 Oct 1997 14:00:52 +0100 (MET)

Dear friends,

we would like to contact with you closer. We work
at similar project -- the Euromath system. The goal of the Euromath
system is to create a homogeneous computer working
environment based on a single data model and adapted to
the needs of the working mathematicians.
The core of Euromath system is the structured editor Grif, which works in
similar way as Thot editor. Of course, both have the same origin.

We are interested in the area of structured editors, so
we made also some experiments with Thot editor. It looks as
a very comfortable ``opened'' structured editor. When
we compare it with Grif, it has some very good new features:
recall at least modularity S,P languages and zoom view.

But one basic difference is that the Euromath system is
SGML editor. It means, it saves and loads SGML files. Thot
editor as a structured editor uses PIV format as its own
format. The problem of saving documents as SGML files is solvable via
T-languages, but the problem is with loading of SGML documents. So, our
first question is, if you plan to rebuild Thot editor as SGML editor
in the future.

The second question, which is interested for us is the
possibility to include another fonts into Thot editor, for
example fonts with mathematical symbols (MSAM, MSBM from
TeX) or with our special characters (Latin 2).

We have some first remarks and bugs to Thot editor, which follows
from our short-time experiments:

-- From our experiences, the function UNDELETE is very
important, but in Thot editor is missing.

-- Until now, we did not find a way (we are not sure, if it is possible)
how to specify for one document type (for example letter)
to include just some from modules (document-natures).
(For instance - in the letter style it has no meaning to include the
'bibliography')

-- Our basic interest is in mathematical formulae and we
have found the following problem: if we wrote rooted
construction, it was very complicated to write inside it.
For example we want to create formulae: \sqrt{\int^1_2f(x)dx}.
If we try to click on the canvas that is ``under'' the root sign (e.g., the
lower bound), the whole root object is selected.
We can access the elements under the root object (in the tree structure)
only using the ``Selection'' funcion from the main menu.

We have also some comments to manuals, in which some
references are missing or the name of menu items are not
the same as in editor. We will sent it to you later
together with our new observations about Thot editor.

We will be pleasured if you find some time to answer our questions.

Best regards from

Jana Chlebikova, Radovan Cervenka and Vanda Hambalkova

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